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Tuesday, 07 April 2009

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Michael

Hi, Joe.

You can find some information here (I just Googled them):

http://bloom.bg/2fIOAAl

My criticism of them stemmed from their claim that their conceptual model - the 'megawatershed' - was something new. It wasn't.

I don't think they were con artists.

Joe

Just what has happened to Earthwater Global llc? I had a lot of faith and hope in them. Does it mean they were American hyper conmen?
Jk

José Rosas

PLEASE... I need somebody's help!
I need to contact EarthWater Global's people, mainly Robert Bisson, Thomas O'Mara or Jay Lehr, because phone numbers in NY do not answer and there are no shown email addresses.
Any info will be greatly appreciated. Please respond to [email protected]

Water Witch

Prior to "Plate Tectonics" being coined, the phenomenon was well known as continental drift and other such terms. The unification of these theories into one scientifically defendable theory/concept has proven to be wildly useful and widely accepted by the scientific community at large over the past 50 years. Therefore I say why all the Megawatershed bad press, give credit where credit is due to Bisson and Lehr for bringing together accepted and modern scientific concepts into one unifying concept/model with a clear descriptive name.

Michael

Dear Jay,

Thanks for your comment. Good to hear from you. You missed a great UA H&WR Third Ephemeral Reunion on 19 April.

I think you should indicate that you are a co-author of both 'Modern Groundwater Exploration' and 'The Encyclopedia of Water'.

I repeat your third paragraph:

'A Megawatershed, as defined, is comprised of 3 fundamental components: highland precipitation with associated infiltration into bedrock supporting active and continuous recharge; fracture-controlled bedrock throughflow; and outflow.'

Sounds suspiciously like a regional groundwater flow system. I can think of flow systems in the Great Basin that fit this description, and here in Oregon we have one on the eastern flank of the Cascades. Both were known as such before you and Bisson came along with the 'Megawatershed' concept. And as we both know, there are other examples, too.

Your contribution is that you would brand them as 'Megawatersheds' and claim that they are a 'new class of groundwater domain'. Not so - give credit where credit is due.

Bisson may have developed a scheme to exploit these systems for water supply, but they are not a new concept.

I would note that Bisson's Wikipedia article says that these systems can be developed in "gravel, fracture-hosted bedrock, and/or sedimentary structures."

Finally, you should see Michael Wallace's (a fellow UA hydrologist) recent comment on the Aguanomics blog:

http://aguanomics.com/2009/04/megawatersheds.html

Apparently you folks can't distinguish compressional from extensional tectonics.

By the way, I recommend:

Bethke, Craig M. and Marshak, Stephen. (1990) Brine migrations across North America-the plate tectonics of groundwater. Annu. Rev. Earth Planet. Sci., 18, p. 287-315.

It has a strong economic geology orientation, but it's a great paper. I don't think they mention the term 'Megawatersheds' at all.

Jay Lehr

Dear Michael,

I feel it necessary to respond to your recent blog posting on Megawatersheds in order to correct some fundamental misunderstandings you appear to have over the paradigm.

Megawatersheds, as defined in Modern Groundwater Exploration (2004) and in The Encyclopedia of Water (2005), are indeed a new class of groundwater domain. The entire premise of the Megawatershed Paradigm is essentially the unification of solid earth geological concepts. Each of the component concepts is widely accepted by the Earth Science community as real and valid (such as Plate Tectonics and mountain precipitation estimates). It is the bringing together of these solid earth processes within a framework of hydrology that makes the Megawatershed unique.

A Megawatershed, as defined, is comprised of 3 fundamental components: highland precipitation with associated infiltration into bedrock supporting active and continuous recharge; fracture-controlled bedrock throughflow; and outflow.

The defense of the Megawatershed Paradigm lies in modern Earth Sciences. Modern satellite-derived precipitation estimates in inaccessible highland regions indicate orders of magnitude more precipitation than previously believed; this water is not included in the presently accepted world water balance, but should be. In addition, advances in bedrock hydroseismicity demonstrate deep infiltration of this mountain precipitation into and through mountain blocks. This phenomenon of long-distance lateral percolation of fluids along regional faults systems commonly underlying sedimentary basins is further evidenced by modern advances in fracture and fault mechanics. In order to round out the system and support the sustainability of these Megawatershed systems groundwater discharge has been found (and is being quantified in much higher levels than previously thought) in regions such as playa lakes, salt basins and deep offshore discharge sites.

Therefore, as you can clearly see, by definition, resources developed from a Megawatershed are sustainable. We agree the component attributes of the Megawatershed are not new, however the unification of them in a single model is. Furthermore it is clear that Megawatersheds are complex earth process systems distinct from traditional regional groundwater systems in sediment environments.

Finally I am encouraged that you recognize the novelty of our approach to groundwater exploration. Our adaptation 35 years ago of modern geologically theory together with state of the art oil, gas and mineral exploration techniques enhanced with satellite data and advanced GIS capabilities do indeed represent the first fully integrated and predictably successful exploration capability for deep groundwater resources. We show in our successes and publications that this approach enables EarthWater Global to move beyond local groundwater exploration to understand the regional extent of these Megawatershed systems and provide solutions for persons in need of water. At EarthWater Global we believe now is the time for the field of groundwater hydrology to take the leap forward and join us in the continental-scale understanding of groundwater systems which will lead to the discovery of vast quantities of water in Megawatersheds all around the world.

Jay
J.H. Lehr, Ph.D. Chief Scientist, EarthWater Global LLC

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Wow. Groundwater hydrologist extraordinaire in action!

Joe Becker

Certainly nothing new here except the word "megawatershed" and perhaps even that isn't new. Further, the use of that term to describe ground-water systems will be confusing to non-technical people, as watershed is commonly referred to as a surface-water feature. Use of the term just seems like hype to me.

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