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Friday, 14 August 2009


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megawatershed promoter

I guess I was confused by DZ's assessment that *some people prefer that the water be used in situ.* This sounded like someone the DZ worked with had made an assessment of the *value* of *in-situ*. DZ is correct - but how can one see through his argument when he obfuscates his argument. I guess I am so surprised by DZ's passion with SV water. This concept has been discussed for 20 years at the same time the Mirage was being built and the LV community was certain he would fail. My mistake and apologies for misreading DZ passionate diatribe against Patricia Mulroy.

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@mega -- hahaha. Markets are NOT the same as politics, but you don't seem to see the difference. Is there any market in SV? No? Oh, well then it's all about politics and Mulroy's grandstanding.

(I am agnostic on where water ends up; you need to read more carefully. :)

megawatershed promoter

I guess I was confused by DZ's market-based approach to water that is widely promoted on Aguanomics. But I think I understand more fully now: if the market-based approach agrees with DZ's conceptual model of how a market works, then it is acceptable. If the political economy disagrees with DZ's preconceived notions on how the market should work, then it is unacceptable. My reading of his model for SV is that in-situ *values* of water trump other *values*, yet none of these values have been quantified or contrasted with other values.

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@Paul -- the difference between Mulroy and industry is that water is more of a political than an economic business (there's no market, competition, entry, etc.) Thus, the "character" of the person in charge matters. Is she doing well by those who depend on her? Not in my opinion. She has not been managing for sustainability and -- as I say in my original post -- she may be driving demand up to force her pet project.

As for "champions" to oppose her, I am willing to do that, but who is going to pay me to oppose unsustainable growth in Nevada? She's got the backing of developers and "city fathers" afraid of being blamed for drying out "paradise" :)

@mega -- some people prefer that the water be used in situ. Mulroy prefers to use it for HER projects, and she uses political (sometimes economic) tools to take it.

megawatershed promoter

Why not use the water? It has no *value* without use. It has *value* when it arrives in Las Vegas.


Pat Mulroy is not a water manager, she's a pro-growth, anti-sustainable megalomaniac eager to exploit fear to get what she wants -- not what's best for her customers." -- David Zetland ... READING THIS POST I FEEL IMPELLED TO COMMENT ...

I write to neither support nor find fault with any of the author's positions. I write simply to ask, if the positions Ms. Mulroy takes are not those which corporate America finds exemplary, ie she eagerly, without hesitation, actively, with passion, promotes and champions all those positions sanctioned by her superiors...?

For me while not making her a hero, it suggest many who find her actions despicable might secretly long to have someone of her caliber to champion their positions...?

Respectfully submitted,

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